[question] So maybe I saw him testify, if you say I was there then maybe I was, but now I forget. You are asking an old lady to remember something not so important from a long time ago. Enough about Morris Jacobs. Everybody should just forget him.

[question] Why you ask me that? Did somebody say something to you? I never told anybody he bothered me. Maybe he bothered some of the other girls, and I don’t know about that, but I never said to anyone he bothered me. Why are you asking this? What did you hear? Lots of the bosses, they took advantage of the girls. It happened all the time. You heard about it. You had to be tough. It wasn’t good, what a lot of the girls put up with to get ahead. And now we don’t speak about that little shmendrick anymore. He is dead, and I would spit on it, if I go by his grave.

[question] There was nobody who helped me with my answers for the trial except the prosecutor. Oh, you are asking about Mr. Rubin? [note: Assistant District Attorney J. Robert Rubin] Yes, he talked with me to make me calm about what I had to say in front of everyone in the courtroom. The goyish one, what was it, Botnick? [Assistant District Attorney Charles S. Bostwick] Mr. Bostwick, okay, so that’s his name, you know this, but you keep asking me to tell you what you know already, better than I know it, no, I only met him in the courtroom. Mr. Rubin was the one friendly with me before, the one who talks to me about what I should say and how I should act. Just be myself, is what he always says. Good advice! Now you change the subject and you go back to my testifying, but I still won’t remember every minute of it. Have you ever sat in a courtroom for a trial? The air is so stale like they never open a window, so much time is wasted, everybody goes to sleep after a while. You think it is exciting when you know about a trial, but to be there, you find out, it is mostly just a lot of nothing and talking about the rules about what everybody isn’t supposed to say.

[question] I am sure Mr. Rubin and Mr. Bostwick were disappointed by the verdict, but that was the decision for the jury, and it was the jury let those two gonifs [Max Blanck and Isaac Harris] get away like that with no blame. They were men, that jury, it was only salesmen and people like that, they probably thought we were stupid when we talk with our accents and we say English that wasn’t so perfect, and all of them were sympathetic with the bosses, you could see it on their faces every day of the trial. And that judge, too.

[question] Nobody came to me from Mr. Harris. I don’t know where you heard that. Who would say that to you? For money? If they gave me big money would I be living so modest? Why would I take money from those two? To tell a lie for them? [comment from interviewer] To say a door was unlocked when the door was locked? It would be blood money. I know the door was unlocked because I passed through that door and that is why I am alive. Look at me. I am sitting here. How did I get through the door if it was locked? When I went through that door, it wasn’t locked. I know that was the wrong answer for so many people who wanted me to say it the other way, but that would have been a lie for me to say.