‘What, so you’ve been crying in there waiting till I need a piss so you can get five minutes at the mirror with me? I mean, if that’s your game-plan you’re the best fucking producer on the planet. Seriously wily. You’ve got Tamara Lenkiewa back there too. She’ll be needing a shit soon, you could have a crack at her as well.’

Becky laughs at her smudged mascara and puffy eyes. ‘Projecting an air of calm authority. A producer who never panics.’

‘I know that’s what you’re meant to be, but it’s all bollocks, isn’t it? Fucking hell, I look at my mistakes and I’m amazed anyone listens to me on set.’

‘And if they don’t?’

‘They’d get fired, obviously. I’m mean, I’m not having that!’ They both laugh now. ‘So what else have you made?’

‘Nothing as producer. I’ve been in development.’

‘First features are a fucker.’

‘I work with Matthew Kingsman and he’ll exec it, so it shouldn’t be as hard as I seem to be making it.’

‘That’s a good pedigree to stick on the table.’

‘Do you know him?’

‘I’ve done meetings.’

‘For anything I’d have worked on? I’ve been there a long time now.’

‘My thing with Matthew Kingsman is, you look at the films he’s made and you count how many women he’s had helming them.’

‘Andrea was on Eight Lies until she dropped out,’ says Becky.

‘However you cut it, he’s done north of twenty films and I can name one with a female director, which was Hellensgard.’

‘He got brought that with Lotta already attached.’

‘See, that’s even more depressing.’

‘He’s not a sexist. He hires women. He’s got me producing.’

‘Still. Back to the one out of twenty directors statistic …’

‘There aren’t that many women directors who can get a film made. I mean, even if you want to back women, if you can’t raise money because France or China or whoever hasn’t heard of them, then you can’t make the film. Believe me, I’ve gone through the lists hundreds of times. You’re rare. You make good films that also make money.’

‘Not sure Matthew agrees with you. I went for that Austen film you guys did. Didn’t get it.’

‘That’s a shame. You’d have been great.’

‘Might have dodged a bullet. It was all a bit bonnets and blushing in the end. So what’s your idea then? Your thing that got shat on?’