“No. I had many. Probably twenty. I had a lot of support. You know, we had many good people in the administration. You read about the bad ones, and I’m the one who will talk about the bad ones. We had some real stiffs, but we also had great people. I tell the story … I was in Washington seventeen times in my entire life. I never slept over. So, I was here approximately seventeen times in my entire life—all of a sudden, I’m driving down Pennsylvania Avenue with two hundred and fifty motorcycles—military guard and every, everything else—and I’m looking at my wife, and I say, ‘You’re First Lady, congratulations, and I’m the president. Do you believe this?’ But I didn’t know people in Washington—now I know everybody. But I didn’t know anybody. The fact is, I developed a certain something. Interesting the gentleman that you dealt with so much, Bannon”—a voluble source in my books—“he shouldn’t have done what he did, but nobody was more for me than Bannon in the last year and a half. Sort of interesting—well, I like Bannon. Steve was Steve…”

With nary a segue:

“I was very disappointed in Mike Pence. We had a very good relationship. Thomas Jefferson, many years before, is a great one, despite the fact that they want to cancel him and get rid of the Jefferson Memorial. He was a great one—was in the same position with one state, Georgia. They were unable to properly calculate the vote, and they said, ‘We cannot calculate the vote; there is a discrepancy in the great state of Georgia.’ And then he said, ‘We will take the vote.’ He took the vote. I wasn’t even asking to take the vote—Thomas Jefferson took the vote—and off the record”—although he had often put it on the record—“I said to Mike Pence, ‘Mike, you’re no Thomas Jefferson.’”

“Why do you think he didn’t do it?”

“He wasn’t Thomas Jefferson, what can I tell you? There was a group of legal scholars that said he should immediately. Is he a statue? He is to protect the Constitution, support and protect. So, if he knows the votes are rigged, if he knows legislatures didn’t approve—without going into dead people or illegal immigrants, ballot dumping, without going into that—he knows, by that time numerous legislatures—if you look at Pennsylvania, they had riots.”

“Take me further—”

“What?”

“Take me further—”

“Mike Pence had a choice. He could have said, ‘It is my duty and obligation and honor to protect the Constitution of the United States, and therefore I am obligated to send these votes back to the legislatures because they did not approve all of these vast changes made to the election.’