"'I don't care if you never take me back home again.'

"'You have to go home.'

"'Who are all those people?'

"'They're all soldiers.'

" 'Why'd they end up in here?'

"'Because they were alone.'

"'What do you do to them?'

"'We look them over and send them home.'

"'What's the point of that?'

"'The point of that is — the point of that is — well.'

"'Why do you look so awful?'

"'I can't help that.'

"'When did. you find my sister?'

' 'She's just down the hall.'

"Patricia? E-p? E-p doesn't look good. E-p looks like she's deader'n a doornail.'

"'She's all right."'

(I then saw my father for the first time. He was standing u , apparently quite conscious.)

"'Daddy!' I'm scared now. They've- 'Daddy! Don't be so scared, Daddy! Dad, don't be so scared! Daddy. don't be so scared! Oh, Daddy! Daddy, don't be so scared! Come on, Daddy.

Daddy, it's all right!'

"He says. Whitty, it's not all right! It's not all right!'

"'No, I know it's not all right.'

"'Oh God, what is it?' he asks.

"'I don't know what it is either, Daddy. How'd you get up here. Daddy?' [Gasps, stifled screaming. Slowly subsides. Long breaths. Silence. Emerges spontaneously from hypnosis.]

We were on a train. Were we on a train? [Long pause.] I'm not hypnotized."

"Do you recall what went on?"

"Do I recall what went on?"

'The last part of your hypnosis.'

'The last part? We were on a train. I was scared to death. just scared to death. Something had happened to my father. Is that — is that true — is that what I? No. because it's not true.

We weren't on a train."

Budd Hopkins: "You talked about your sister."

"Yeah, my sister was there with us."

"Edie?"

"E-p."

''Ebie?"

"No, E-p. Did I say E-p? That was her nickname '

"Do you call her that?"

"That was what we called her back when we were kids. How did I end up back in the —

I'm a little confused, because, uh... I remember saying I'm twelve at some point, and then I remember seeing that thing again, the same thing that I saw when —"

Budd Hopkins: "What was the thing?"

"The thing is a — why, I keep saying it's a woman, you know. But it's a thing. But I saw her. On the train? What in the world is this all about, because I seem to remember seeing her on a train. On a train? But it's not — it's just not a train. I'm telling you that right now, Budd."

Budd Hopkins: "Your father was there?"

"Yeah. He was there. He was scared to death! And when he le scared I got scared. And my sister was there but she was out like a light. And there was a whole bunch of soldiers there too."

"Regular soldiers?"

"In uniforms."