"It's you again."

I turned around and saw Pena.

I'm sorry to bother you. I have just a few more

"Yes, questions."

"No bother. I wish I could have done something before, you know? Maybe had seen him before, when he first pulled in, seen if he needed help. I don't know."

We had started walking back toward the shack.

"I don't know what anybody could have done," I said, just to be saying something.

"So, what are your questions?"

I took out my notebook.

"Uh, first off, when you ran to the car, did you see his hands? Like where they were?"

He walked without speaking. I think he was envisioning the incident in his mind.

"You know," he finally said, "I think I did look at his hands. Because when I ran up and saw it was just him, I immediately figured he had shot himself So I'm pretty sure I looked at his hands to see if he was holding the gun."

"Was he?"

"No. I saw it on the seat next to him. it fell on the seat."

"Do you remember if he was wearing gloves when you looked in?"

"Gloves ... gloves," he said" as if he was trying to prompt an answer from his memory banks. After another long pause he said, "I don't know. I'm not getting a picture in my mind. What do the police say?"

"Well, I'm just trying to see if you remember."

"Well, I'm not getting anything, sorry."

"If the police wanted to, would you let them hypnotize you? To see if they could bring it out that way?"

"Hypnotize me? They do that sort of stuff?"

"Sometimes. If it's important."

"Well, if it was important, I guess I'd do it."

We were standing in front of the shack now. I was looking at the Tempo parked in the same place my brother had parked.

"The other thing I wanted to ask about was the timing.

The police reports say that you had the car in sight within five seconds of,hearing the shot. And with only five seconds there is no way anybody could make it from the car and into the woods without being seen."

"Right. No way. Would've seen 'em."

"Okay, then what about after?"

"After what?"

"After you ran to the car and saw the man was shot. You told me the other day you ran back to the shack here and made two calls. That right?"

"Yes, nine one one and my supervisor.."

"So you were inside the shack here and couldn't see the car, right?"

gcright."

"How long?"

Pena nodded, seeing what I was getting at.

"But that doesn't matter because he was alone in the car.

"I know but humor me. How long?"

He shrugged his shoulders as if to say what the hell and fell silent again. He walked into the shack and made a motion with his hand like lifting up the phone.

"I got through on nine one one right away. That was pretty quick. They took my name and stuff and that took some time. Then I called in and asked for Doug Paquin, that's my boss. I said it was an emergency and they put me through right away. He got on and I told him what happened and he told me to go Out and watch the vehicle until police came. That was it. I went back out."