He tucks his free hand in under his elbow, as if hiding his own knuckles which bear scratches and bruises from the boxing bag. ‘I thought he did, but maybe he used his elbows, or knees, or the gun. I was drugged so everything is foggy. I just remember getting hit. It’s unsurprising though, Lisa. We’ve heard all sorts of bizarre rumours and conspiracy theories. From a plot by the government to install surveillance in all homes, to theories about the military spying on civilians with me working as some undercover agent.’ That crooked smile, it reaches his eyes. He’s doing so well. ‘I’d like to think I was Jason Bourne, but I’m just an ordinary guy caught up in this mess.’

‘Right. But people have good reason to produce their own answers when so many questions still remain.’

‘Here’s the fact at the heart of the issue – that man, Daniel Moore, showed Lina the footage on the phone, as you can see in the video that was released this week. We know he knew about the cameras, so it follows that he likely installed them. Everything else is frankly rumour.’

Again he hits it out of the park.

‘So you’re saying it didn’t happen, you didn’t chase her down the road? The taxi driver lied?’

‘I’m saying this is a combination of different rumours and possibly mistaken identity. There was a morning we snuck away early to the police station so we wouldn’t be spotted by the media outside our house. Maybe that’s where this rumour came from but I’ve been cleared of any wrongdoing. I volunteered myself and my home to a search to help the police.’

I’ve never thought of him as a good liar, but we had rehearsed these answers so much maybe he believes it.

‘The police have released a statement clearing you of any suspicion but some viewers at home would perhaps say that you only handed over your hardware because you knew there was nothing on it. What would you say to them?’

We never prepared for this question. ‘Honestly, Lisa, I would tell them to get a life. Get off reddit, or Twitter or wherever else conspiracy theorists loiter, and they might gain some perspective.’ He’s getting frustrated.

‘Strong words,’ she says.