One man, who saw his child taken in the middle of the night while he was himself entirely conscious, disagreed categorically with Sally. He maintained that-they had shown him respect by allowing him to know what was happening to the child, and not only that, that the child was unharmed in the morning, and seemed filled with anew light of the mind. That day, the child made the following comments: "Reality is God's dream," and "The unconscious is like the universe beyond the quasars. It's a place we want to go to find out what's there." He also said, "Dad, I had a dream last night. It was like a dream but it wasn't a dream. I was m the woods and a huge eye was looking down at me.")

Sally: "I'd think you'd feel horrible about it."

(The man added that he did feel horrible about it, but at the same time felt that they took the child because they had to or needed to very badly, and they had been helpful and supportive of him while the child was gone. "Then I woke up in the morning and my child was fine. More than fine. That's the reality.")

Sam: "Do you think they possibly match emotions? If you are hostile, they will be hostile? If you are not forceful in any way, they will be nicer? If you comply, they will, too?"

Whitley: "They won't comply, I don't think. They can be nicer, I've seen that."

Sam: "They're never really hostile with children."

Whitley: "My son remembers them saying in the middle of his head, 'We won't hurt you, we won't hurt you."'

Sam: "They have less to fear from children. As an adult you've learned hatred, fear, violence. They fear an adult."

Whitley: "I've sensed fear."

Sally: "Me too."

Budd: "It's very common that people say that they've felt they're afraid of us."

(The conversation then turned to the issue of sexual experience, disappearing pregnancies, and the sexual intrusions experienced by some of the men, involving extraction of semen with a probe, or having it drawn out with a sort of vacuum device.) Sally: "There was somebody I met — the South American guy — he mentioned a number of dreams he'd had." (An abductee from Brazil.) "In some of the dreams he saw people. He was convinced that the people were half them and half human. They had large heads, but the features were more human And they were children. A little boy, a little girl. I remember thinking, Well, this was a dream. But he had a number of dreams."

Mary: "I still keep it in my mind that it might have been something psychological with this mysterious pregnancy that I had. I did not have a false pregnancy. I was tested positive, blood test, pelvic, my periods had stopped. I was pregnant. But I keep in my mind that maybe this was some kind of psychological reaction to a miscarriage. That keeps me from going crazy, wanting my child."