"Well, he did but I don't remember what they were. He was really scared. Something really scared him. I thought maybe something was happening to him. because it was like something was happening to him. I thought somebody was doing something to in. It was :r different kind of scream."

"Why didn't you go to him?"

"Because Whitley was already on his way . But I remember feeling very uneasy. I wanted to go too. but I felt I shouldn't."

"Why not?"

"I thought there was something Whitley would — It had to do with him. He was supposed to go."

"He was supposed to go?"

"He was supposed to go. I wasn't supposed to, but I wanted to go."

"It must have been difficult staying in bed."

"It was, because I wondered what had happened."

"When did you find out what had happened?"

"I don't remember. I don't remember."

"What did happen?"

"I do remember he was gone for a long time. He didn't come back. Sometimes he goes and sleeps down there when our son has a nightmare. Or sleeps in our son's room in the apartment. I remember feeling very lonely that he didn't come back, and I didn't think it was fair to be left like that. It was very lonely and scary. It made me uneasy. He kept going, you know. He kept going." (I never sleep with our son.)

Budd Hopkins: "When your son kept crying?"

"Whitley kept going. Kept leaving."

Budd Hopkins: "I want you to do something. You're lying very, very quiet. Relaxed, just as you were that night. I want you to concentrate on what you can see and feel and hear. If you can see something through your eyelids. Feel your body, your shoulder, your legs. Feel relaxed."

"I don't feel relaxed. I'm not relaxed. I can't feel relaxed if I wasn't relaxed. I mean, it wasn't relaxing. No, it wasn't relaxing at all. There was too much going on, you know. It was—'

Budd Hopkins: "Was there in the room, or did Jacques and Annie —"

"No, they weren't in on it. There was something going on. I wanted to know what was going on. It looked-things were going on and I wanted to know what was going on! There was lots of things going on and I couldn't figure out what was going on!"

"Why didn't you get up and go see?"

"I couldn't, because I wouldn't. I — Was I afraid to, or wasn't supposed to? I wasn't supposed to. It was like your mother said to you, 'You have to stay here.' even if you don't —you're dying to get out and see what's going on, but you know because you've been told."

Her identification of the directing force feminine is fascinating.)

"You were trained to do that?"

"Well, we're all trained to do that from childhood."

Budd Hopkins: "Who told you that?"

"Nobody told me! I just had to do it."

"Is this something Whitley told you?"